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Picturing
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An Interview with davidkremers |
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[davidkremers is a conceptual artist in the Biology Division at the
California Institute of Technology. He is especially interested in organic
possibilities for works of art; that is, art that grows. The work he is
discussing uses living tissues that have been "painted" with genetically
manipulated bacteria.]
Q. How
do you, an artist, explain your profound interest in science?
davidkremers:
I think I was born with science genes, and I have been lucky to have been
allowed to develop them.
Q. Could
you explain what you mean about your genetic inheritance?
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the plasma of anticipation, 1997
vrml exhibition |
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davidkremers:
Sure. On my father's side I am directly descended from Mercator, whose
real name was the same as mine. Gerherd de Kremer, the famous map-maker
who lived in 1532. All of his descendents are scientists. On my mother's
side, the whole family are doctors. From them I inherited a predisposition
towards science.
Q. And
what do you mean by having been allowed to develop them?
davidkremers:
Human beings have spent the last 10,000 years mastering the art of natural
selection. Humans are really good at this and I am fortunate to be the
beneficiary of really valuable genes. Some are purely academic, the others
are more difficult to pin-point, but they have enabled me to find support
for my creative designs. Here is where I think I was fortunate to be raised
in an environment where I was exposed to art all the time. I had an eighteenth
century art education, traveling and visiting museums and architectural
monuments. Unlike other children, I did not have my natural creativity
schooled out of me.
Q. When
did you first think of yourself as an artist?
davidkremers:
I started work at the age of five. I've been working full time as an artist
since then, in a scientific family where science and art were yoked together.
Q. As
an adult, when did your career begin.
davidkremers:
I started designing gardens in college, and by accident met the head of
an Air Force department that was developing space operations in California.
I started designing space stations between 1983 and 1985. By 1986 I put
together a grant to develop space stations that would grow in space, like
coral reefs. [The] Challenger [explosion] put that project on hold.
Q. How
did you get from there to the biology department at Caltech, where you
are an artist-in-residence?
davidkremers:
Just as I'd met the Air Force director by chance, in the early '90s I
met a molecular biologist, a post-doctoral fellow who was then at Caltech,
who showed me the protocols for genetic research. I saw at once that they
could be used to make paintings. I could use the same plasmids and substrates
that cause chemical reactions in DNA and other stuff to produce naturally
occurring enzymes.
Q. I
don't understand the chemical terms you are using. Can you explain them
to me?
davidkremers:
I don't know how biochemistry works, but following biochemical protocols
I grow paintings. I use genetically engineered bacteria that produce naturally
occurring colored enzymes to grow portraits of the early development of
humans.
Q. How
do you think the map of the human genome will effect the future of biology?
davidkremers:
I think that there are no blueprints in biotechnology and we cannot pretend
to be able to provide them. The genome is not a blueprint. It is an instruction
set that is influenced by environmental factors. There are no interchangeable
parts. Biotechnology is not separate from all technology today. This is
very important. We are rapidly moving from a civilization based on the
manipulation of inanimate objects, into a culture where everything will
be based on the generation of more or less living organisms. While the
genome does not provide a map that we can follow, it does open up a whole
level of complexity that we have no choice but to explore.
Q. How
does this apply to your portraits?
davidkremers:
There is no way I can know in advance how my genetically engineered portraits
will turn out.
Q. Who
are the subjects of your portraits?
davidkremers:
All of us. These are portraits of the earliest stages in our embryonic
development. Not only does our whole species look identical, but in these
portraits humans look the same as mice and whales. These are portraits
of mammalian life, for in our earliest days as embryos, we look as if
we could as easily develop into whales, or mice, as into people. We have
to remember that the embryo is in an environment in the mother. The mother
is the first environment. We have our predisposition to become human,
but the human genome is like software that can only be run in the environment
of human mothers.
Q. What
does this mean for the future of people?
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davidkremers:
If you clone a human being, you don't get a Frankenstein assembly of adult
parts. You get a baby. We should be talking about how to provide for and
raise healthy babies, not monsters.
Q. Have
you ever developed, by chance, any art works that could have turned into
monsters?
davidkremers:
No. Because I'm very careful to grow my works of art, not fabricate them.
Q. What
about the occasional mutant?
davidkremers:
I have lots of photographs that I have taken of mutant tissue, but I can't
tell by just looking at them whether we would call them monsters or not.
When I take these experimental photographs, I take the pictures not to
classify the tissue as human or mouse, but to make an image that is representative
of the wonder and value of life even at a stage most of us do not recognize
as life.
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Q. Has
the mapping of the human genome changed your attitudes towards human life?
davidkremers:
As the human genome has become knowable, and as we see the similarities
with the genomes of other animals, I am more than ever overwhelmed by
the notion of life as something we share with each other. I see that humans
are, by our very evolution, creatures who survive by integrating and sharing
with each other. We are different from plant life, for instance, because
plants live in isolation. We humans live in neighborhoods.
Q. Are
you comfortable with the impact that the Human Genome Project will have
on society?
davidkremers:
The greatest danger to society from technology and the human genome is
not scientific, but cultural. We live in a society where everything is
either/or. This is not the way it should be. To take advantage of the
map that the human genome project will provide, we have to invent a way
to simultaneously share that information, and protect it for ourselves.
The biggest problem facing biology today is not a science problem, it's
an art problem.
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Picturing
DNA by Bettyann Holtzmann Kevles & Marilyn Nissenson
Copyright © 2000 Bettyann
Holtzmann Kevles & Marilyn Nissenson
All Rights Reserved |
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